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Saturday, February 23, 2013

Regarding contradictions in officer's mind...Reply to Mr Gopal

Mr Gopal:- Dear Manmauji,
I hope you are doing well. I know you are very busy but may I still request you to write often as your articles are very informative and helpful to us. I am glad you had a wonderful evening enjoying Kailash kher concert as well as having a little introspective thought.
Those who are better suited working on IRS lines, but instead chose IAS/IPS because of the perks the latter services entail, it is very bad. They sure disappoint others and themselves as well. But for aspirants who want to be an administrator, but had to contend with other services, it is a tough pill to swallow.
  I can think of one suggestion. Perhaps it would be helpful if students were informed about the inner workings of different services under CSE. Your blog helps a lot regarding this. There is also this babusofindia.com ; it tells us what's happening. I was an aspirant myself and I still don't know how different is, a 'routine job day' for IAS or IPS or IRS officers. Many other students don't know. So, it would be good if these two things happen
a) change in perception of students
b) to know about different services and how they function so as to make an informed choice.
Regards,
GopaL.

Manmauji:- Hello Mr Gopal, thanks for your visit on the blog and kind words about it...you rightly said that there has to be proper awareness among the civil service aspirants so that they can opt a service which  best suite them. I tried to disseminate some information in that direction through this blog. Still there will be problem. For e.g. even if the candidate is well informed, he/she doesn't have option to choose the service after the selection as the choice of service has to be filled in the CSE[Mains] application form. At that time, nobody is sure what rank one is going to get due to unscientific selection process. You see, someone is getting good marks in mains exam but due to poor marks in Interview his/her rank will be low and hence he will land up in services other than All India services. The same is the case with other way situation when you score poor in mains exam and good in interview. In mains exam, you have several chances to offset your bad score. Suppose you performed bad in GS paper then you have still chance to score good in mains by performing good in optionals but this is not the case in interview. Within 15 to 20 minutes,your life is being decided by few people sitting in Board.
       Therefore,what I feel is,since everyone is writing the same exam hence those who qualified CSE have equal merit and intellect level. After the selection process is over, there has to be some intense field testing or some method must be devised by Ministry of Personnel to know the real interest and aptitude of the selected candidate and accordingly service should be allocated...one might differ with my views. But this is actually serious matter and must be thought,discussed and planned to prevent wastage of talent. I know officers in IPS who prefer to be in IRS but landed in IPS due to rank. Now they are not able to perform in IPS, occasionally proceeding on leave. One of the IPS officer took leave and now teaching in some Civil service coaching institute in Delhi and feeling more satisfied then in IPS. At the same time,some of the IRS are just frustrated in IRS as they like more common people oriented service profile as they belongs to rural areas and want to work for their problems. But in IRS, they need to deal only with rich people.Now you see the contradictions and complete wastage of manpower,talent,etc....keep on Blogging...  

6 comments:

saransh aggarwal said...

good evening sir,
even after thinking a lot,i am unable to decide whether i should have ips or irs as the second service choice after ias. The reason being;
i feel ips has a lot of insignificant postings, completely politicised, no technical skill learnt which can be used in some other sphere if one desires to leave the service.So after thinking on these lines, i believe i should put irs over ips, the reason being that though there is comparatively less power and there are infrastructure issues, but at the same time i would be learning a skill which will come handy if a decide to leave the service(one should always have a contingency plan-abraham lincoln). I have read about some irs officers who left the service and getting big money in the private sector; some even started their own companies.
Sir, please tell me as to how many years does it take for an irs officer to learn as much, as is required to start his own tax consultancy.Furthermore, i have read that there isnt such a thing called indirect tax consultancy as yet,this field is just emerging but i dont feel that it is going to come anywhere near direct tax consultancy.
Please tell me
-whether what i have written above is true?
-should the above given points be taken into consideration while deciding the service choice or are they insignificant
-let's suppose i put irs over ips.Then considering that i am joining the service only to learn the skill and plan to start my own tax consultancy in future, what will be better irs(it) or irs(cce). i believe direct tax would be better.
Dont forget to answer; ips or irs.As far as my attitude and tastes are concerned , both the services suit me.

Please help me out of this dilemma.I have wasted a lot of time on this.

saransh aggarwal said...

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saransh aggarwal said...

good evening sir,
even after thinking a lot,i am unable to decide whether i should have ips or irs as the second service choice after ias. The reason being;
i feel ips has a lot of insignificant postings, completely politicised, no technical skill learnt which can be used in some other sphere if one desires to leave the service.So after thinking on these lines, i believe i should put irs over ips, the reason being that though there is comparatively less power and there are infrastructure issues, but at the same time i would be learning a skill which will come handy if a decide to leave the service(one should always have a contingency plan-abraham lincoln). I have read about some irs officers who left the service and getting big money in the private sector; some even started their own companies.
Sir, please tell me as to how many years does it take for an irs officer to learn as much, as is required to start his own tax consultancy.Furthermore, i have read that there isnt such a thing called indirect tax consultancy as yet,this field is just emerging but i dont feel that it is going to come anywhere near direct tax consultancy.
Please tell me
-whether what i have written above is true?
-should the above given points be taken into consideration while deciding the service choice or are they insignificant
-let's suppose i put irs over ips.Then considering that i am joining the service only to learn the skill and plan to start my own tax consultancy in future, what will be better irs(it) or irs(cce). i believe direct tax would be better.
Dont forget to answer; ips or irs.As far as my attitude and tastes are concerned , both the services suit me.

Please help me out of this dilemma.I have wasted a lot of time on this.

saransh aggarwal said...

sir, if suppose i put ips over irs, but later on ,say after the results have been declared and i get to know more about the various services, i decide not to go for ips, Can i deliberately fail the physical test? Which service will be allocated to me in such a situation?waiting for reply....
thank you

saransh aggarwal said...

sir , in ias, is agmut cadre better than other state cadres?
I have noticed officers whose parents themselves are/were in civil services have preferred to go for the ut cadre.moreover i believe that though they have less power but since they are posted in different areas(delhi,arunachal,mizoram and other UTies), they have more autonomy,the politicians dont have much leverage on them.Is it true?

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