Hello Mr Dattu, thanks for your visit on the blog....regarding your query the schedule of FC is very hectic. You will be asked to get up at 5:30 AM and PT will start at 5:45AM till 7:15AM....after that from 9:00 AM to 1:30 PM, you will have lectures [most of them will be highly boring]....then from 2:15 PM to 6:20 PM you will have again lectures....after that on some days you will have some cultural events e.g. music, classical, etc...so, some time you will be free at 9PM....in between you may have lot of high tea [snacks and chat session with Director General]....In all these activities the participation is mandatory....some times, in between the lectures and cultural events, roll call can happen...Besides, you will have one Essay competition, almost 10 days village visit programme, approx 15 days trekking schedule, HOPE project, One Act play programme ,Feast and numerous other activities such as protocol duties...In between you will have two exams one in between and one during last days of FC....thus it is clearly evident that FC is very hectic...But FC is really a great fun....theoretically you will not get any time to prepare for mains but you can take risk to skip some classes [for that memo will be issued ,of course] and prepare for mains...You need not take tension of FC exams as the question papers are very easy in nature and almost all of them are suggestions based which I feel all of you can pass without any study at all...The only one paper which requires some attention is ‘Law Paper’ ......thus You have to put extra mile effort because the general mood in FC is full fun....so to maintain tempo, a lot of extra effort is required...you can form your core team of your friends to prepare for mains...you can study throughout the night and can very well sleep in class [which you will do in any case due to very boring lectures]. You can opt for the same city of FC as your mains exam centre.....
Regarding skipping FC, it may be really risky business this year because Dopt is really taking a lot of pain to organise FC for so many candidates at a time....so just be cautious on this point...those who did it in previous years may have some good links inside or some very valid reasons to do so.....but this year the situation is entirely different...you can talk to some other guys and known persons inside Dopt [if you have any one] and then decide...personally, I will not advise you to skip FC.......further query is welcome....keep blogging....
Thursday, August 20, 2009
Reply to Mr Kshitij
Hello Mr Kshitij, thanks for your visit on the blog....We have already clarified in our previous posting that UPSC has deleted the link to the mark sheet for CSE-08...so We can't publish any mark sheet now onwards as we have the process to retrieve the data directly from UPSC server....further query is welcome...keep blogging...
Reply to Miss/Mr Anonymous,Mr Dattu,Mr Nikhil
Hello Miss/Mr Anonymous,Mr Dattu, Mr Akhil...thanks for your visit on the blog and congratulations on your success in CSE-2008.....I will reply your queries one by one...
To Mr/Miss Anonymous :
Indian audit and account service gives you much diversity,international exposure,opportunity to work in world bank,UN and other international agencies as compared to IES. You can definitely leave IES for IAAS...regarding the returning to IES after technical resignation, you can very well return to IES as you have completed your probation period. Kindly do all the effort to get clearance from your department...I don't think there will be any problem in it...if you have any problem then approach to the senior most officer of your department and ask him to releave you...In worst possible case if you are not able to get it by august last, you can join FC after some days but inform Dopt and respective place of FC immediately.
To Mr/Miss Anonymous :
Yes you can definitely assume the same attire and clothes requirement as mentioned in MCR,LBSNAA and on this blog...as FC programme will be the same...Bhopal academy is conducting FC first time,that is why they are ill equipped.
To Mr Dattu:
Unfortunately FC is compulsory from this year...It is a new experiment by DOPT...leave provision will not be applicable this year as you have to report to FC...you can not postpone it and can't attend it next year...So don't take risk and join FC....Some of the candidates have approached to DOPT in this regard but they blatantly replied regarding mandatory FC...what you can do is fill the mains centre of the place of FC...it will be easy for you to appear there because only the day of examination you will get the leave....good luck...
To Mr Akhil:
The ranks 79,82,133 which you mentioned have not been allocated any services due to many reasons e.g.
[1] they may not have submitted all the documents e.g. caste certificate,degree certificate,etc
[2] they may have some medical fitness problems.
I hope I have replied to all of your queries...further query is welcome... keep blogging.....
To Mr/Miss Anonymous :
Indian audit and account service gives you much diversity,international exposure,opportunity to work in world bank,UN and other international agencies as compared to IES. You can definitely leave IES for IAAS...regarding the returning to IES after technical resignation, you can very well return to IES as you have completed your probation period. Kindly do all the effort to get clearance from your department...I don't think there will be any problem in it...if you have any problem then approach to the senior most officer of your department and ask him to releave you...In worst possible case if you are not able to get it by august last, you can join FC after some days but inform Dopt and respective place of FC immediately.
To Mr/Miss Anonymous :
Yes you can definitely assume the same attire and clothes requirement as mentioned in MCR,LBSNAA and on this blog...as FC programme will be the same...Bhopal academy is conducting FC first time,that is why they are ill equipped.
To Mr Dattu:
Unfortunately FC is compulsory from this year...It is a new experiment by DOPT...leave provision will not be applicable this year as you have to report to FC...you can not postpone it and can't attend it next year...So don't take risk and join FC....Some of the candidates have approached to DOPT in this regard but they blatantly replied regarding mandatory FC...what you can do is fill the mains centre of the place of FC...it will be easy for you to appear there because only the day of examination you will get the leave....good luck...
To Mr Akhil:
The ranks 79,82,133 which you mentioned have not been allocated any services due to many reasons e.g.
[1] they may not have submitted all the documents e.g. caste certificate,degree certificate,etc
[2] they may have some medical fitness problems.
I hope I have replied to all of your queries...further query is welcome... keep blogging.....
A comparative study of IRS[C&CE] Vs IRS [IT].....A Model Service preference order for CSE-2009 Mains Form
Now It is the time to fill the UPSC mains form for CSE-2009....Numerous candidates face difficulties in filling the preference of services due to lack of knowledge. Neutral views is publishing a write up by one of the IRS officer to clear the air on this issue.
“In CSE-08, Rank-78 has opted for IRS[IT], Rank-140,160 for IRS[C&Ce]...these examples reflect a break with tradition maturing of the things in CS. With globalisation, not only the role of services has undergone a paradigm shift but the people’s choices and priorities have also changed considerably. Now a days, more and more candidates are opting for central services especially IRS [C&CE] and IRS[IT] over others.This is a healthy trend. The role of revenue services is bound to increase in future.
Still a large number of aspirants are not informed of the full scope of various services and hence are in dilemma over the selection of services. They frequently heed to advice of coaching institutes which themselves are not fully aware of various services.
One of the biggest dilemma has been deciding between IRS [C&CE] and IRS[IT], both have Ministry of Finance as cadre controlling authority. IRS[C&CE] used to be the clear choice in the 1990’s but the situation has changed recently. Due to the greater visibility of IRS[IT] people are now going for IT without being aware of the full scope of IRS[C&CE] whose role has changed considerably and scope broadened post globalization and with the addition of service tax to its kitty.
Here I will like to place facts before the candidates so that they can decide easily according to their personal preference.
IRS [C&CE] administer and collects central excise,customs,service tax and narcotics of government of India. Few people are aware of the fact that service tax is administered by IRS [C&CE].
The advantages are :
[1] Service tax is the future of Govt of India’s revenue. It is the fastest growing tax of the world [Services contributes 55% of India’s GDP and it is bound to increase in future]. Currently it is contributing 65000 Cr and it is slated to contribute 20 lakh Cr by 2020.
[2] Like IAS, IRS[C&CE] offers greatest diversity of job profile. One gets to administer taxes. Besides, there is a role of this service in :
[a] homeland security
[b] preventing narcoterrorism
[c]regulating narcotics
[d] facilitation of trade in customs
[e] checking serious frauds through DRI,DGCI which are totally manned by IRS[C&CE]
[f] Deputation in CBI,RAW and IB, UPSC [Ms Praveen Talha]
[g] one IRS[C&CE]officer in every SEZ
[h] intellectual property rights
[i] guardians of economic frontiers
[j] check on fake currency
[k] administration of various acts related to other ministries e.g. Arms Act,Antiquity Act,etc.
[3]getting administrative power at quite an early age, IRS [C&CE] officer just after probation are in charge of a division as assistant commissioner [AC].
[4] AC/DC[ deputy comms.] are the cutting edge of this department.
[5] The biggest attraction of IRS[C&CE] is its very cool training and numerous attachments. We have as many as 19 attachments [field training outside academy]..maximum for any service. We are attached with CBN,DGCEI,NPA,NADT,Parliament,Army,Coast guard,NIPFP,Navy,Forest academy,various customs houses,excise and service tax commissionerate. This gives you an excellent opportunity to tour whole of India along with acquisition of knowledge.
[6] There is a great feeling of esprit-De-corps in this service. Probationers are treated as guests when they visit various commissionerate and senior officials try their best to make them comfortable.
IRS [C&CE] has advantages over IRS[IT] as follows:
[1] cool and easy training along with numerous attachment.
[2] Service tax is going to be the king of all taxes
[3]Great diversity of job
[4] administrative power at an early age
[5] uniform service with a huge subordinate staff [in IT no subordinate staff at entry level]
[6] Dealing with high profile corporations with sophisticated client base.
[7] good working environment with spacious offices
[8] wide area of jurisdictions e.g. Merrut chief commissionerate of IRS [C&CE] covers entire UP and Uttarakhand.
For more details about training and photographs one can visit nacen.gov.in and search ‘IRS IN MAKING ‘ in “YouTube.com”
The only few advantage of IRS [IT] over IRS [C&CE] are greater visibility in society and so called more nuisance power which is no real power. With the introduction of direct tax code and more computerisation, IRS[IT] is going to loose this nuisance power also in future. Besides
IRS [IT] has following disadvantages:
[1] Smaller jurisdiction
[2] poor working environment
[3]No subordinate staff i.e. you have type your own papers
[4]] IT Inspectors directly to Joint commissioner bypassing Assistant comms.
[5] very very small offices [cubical]
[6] they are referred as glorified clerks
[7] monotonous job profile
Thus by considering the above facts and after taking individual choices, an ideal service order should be [which can vary according to individual preferences]:
[1]IAS/IFS
[2]IPS
[3]IRS [C&CE]
[4]IRS[IT]
[5]IRTS /IAAS {audit}
[6]IRAS {railway accounts}
[7]IRPS
[8]Civil accounts
[9]DANIC
[10]DAPIC
[11]P&T
[12]IIS
[13]Postal
[14]corporate
[15]defence account
[16]RPF
[17]pondichery civil
[18]defence estate
[19]pondichery police
[20]ordinance factory
[21]armed forces hq
“In CSE-08, Rank-78 has opted for IRS[IT], Rank-140,160 for IRS[C&Ce]...these examples reflect a break with tradition maturing of the things in CS. With globalisation, not only the role of services has undergone a paradigm shift but the people’s choices and priorities have also changed considerably. Now a days, more and more candidates are opting for central services especially IRS [C&CE] and IRS[IT] over others.This is a healthy trend. The role of revenue services is bound to increase in future.
Still a large number of aspirants are not informed of the full scope of various services and hence are in dilemma over the selection of services. They frequently heed to advice of coaching institutes which themselves are not fully aware of various services.
One of the biggest dilemma has been deciding between IRS [C&CE] and IRS[IT], both have Ministry of Finance as cadre controlling authority. IRS[C&CE] used to be the clear choice in the 1990’s but the situation has changed recently. Due to the greater visibility of IRS[IT] people are now going for IT without being aware of the full scope of IRS[C&CE] whose role has changed considerably and scope broadened post globalization and with the addition of service tax to its kitty.
Here I will like to place facts before the candidates so that they can decide easily according to their personal preference.
IRS [C&CE] administer and collects central excise,customs,service tax and narcotics of government of India. Few people are aware of the fact that service tax is administered by IRS [C&CE].
The advantages are :
[1] Service tax is the future of Govt of India’s revenue. It is the fastest growing tax of the world [Services contributes 55% of India’s GDP and it is bound to increase in future]. Currently it is contributing 65000 Cr and it is slated to contribute 20 lakh Cr by 2020.
[2] Like IAS, IRS[C&CE] offers greatest diversity of job profile. One gets to administer taxes. Besides, there is a role of this service in :
[a] homeland security
[b] preventing narcoterrorism
[c]regulating narcotics
[d] facilitation of trade in customs
[e] checking serious frauds through DRI,DGCI which are totally manned by IRS[C&CE]
[f] Deputation in CBI,RAW and IB, UPSC [Ms Praveen Talha]
[g] one IRS[C&CE]officer in every SEZ
[h] intellectual property rights
[i] guardians of economic frontiers
[j] check on fake currency
[k] administration of various acts related to other ministries e.g. Arms Act,Antiquity Act,etc.
[3]getting administrative power at quite an early age, IRS [C&CE] officer just after probation are in charge of a division as assistant commissioner [AC].
[4] AC/DC[ deputy comms.] are the cutting edge of this department.
[5] The biggest attraction of IRS[C&CE] is its very cool training and numerous attachments. We have as many as 19 attachments [field training outside academy]..maximum for any service. We are attached with CBN,DGCEI,NPA,NADT,Parliament,Army,Coast guard,NIPFP,Navy,Forest academy,various customs houses,excise and service tax commissionerate. This gives you an excellent opportunity to tour whole of India along with acquisition of knowledge.
[6] There is a great feeling of esprit-De-corps in this service. Probationers are treated as guests when they visit various commissionerate and senior officials try their best to make them comfortable.
IRS [C&CE] has advantages over IRS[IT] as follows:
[1] cool and easy training along with numerous attachment.
[2] Service tax is going to be the king of all taxes
[3]Great diversity of job
[4] administrative power at an early age
[5] uniform service with a huge subordinate staff [in IT no subordinate staff at entry level]
[6] Dealing with high profile corporations with sophisticated client base.
[7] good working environment with spacious offices
[8] wide area of jurisdictions e.g. Merrut chief commissionerate of IRS [C&CE] covers entire UP and Uttarakhand.
For more details about training and photographs one can visit nacen.gov.in and search ‘IRS IN MAKING ‘ in “YouTube.com”
The only few advantage of IRS [IT] over IRS [C&CE] are greater visibility in society and so called more nuisance power which is no real power. With the introduction of direct tax code and more computerisation, IRS[IT] is going to loose this nuisance power also in future. Besides
IRS [IT] has following disadvantages:
[1] Smaller jurisdiction
[2] poor working environment
[3]No subordinate staff i.e. you have type your own papers
[4]] IT Inspectors directly to Joint commissioner bypassing Assistant comms.
[5] very very small offices [cubical]
[6] they are referred as glorified clerks
[7] monotonous job profile
Thus by considering the above facts and after taking individual choices, an ideal service order should be [which can vary according to individual preferences]:
[1]IAS/IFS
[2]IPS
[3]IRS [C&CE]
[4]IRS[IT]
[5]IRTS /IAAS {audit}
[6]IRAS {railway accounts}
[7]IRPS
[8]Civil accounts
[9]DANIC
[10]DAPIC
[11]P&T
[12]IIS
[13]Postal
[14]corporate
[15]defence account
[16]RPF
[17]pondichery civil
[18]defence estate
[19]pondichery police
[20]ordinance factory
[21]armed forces hq
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