Regarding technical resignation...Reply to Mr Ashish

Mr Ashish:- Dear Sir,
I am currently in a central service from 2010 exam and will be getting another central service from 2012 exam.
My query is:
1. I want a continuation in service, without break. in that case, can I seek exemption from FC and continue in my present service and then give a technical resignation in December when departmental training starts and join the new service? I have applied "Through Proper Channel" so relieving should not be an issue here. Is exemption given for preparation and will it be considered wrong if I continue to be in job?
2. What is the quantum of time I can have in the transition phase i.e. after 'technically' resigning from last service and joining new service?
Any suggestions and feedback will be welcome.
Regards
Ashish   Manmauji:- Hello Mr Ashish, thanks for your visit on the blog...Congratulations on your grand success in CSE...Regarding your query, if you have not attended FC in your previous service then only you will be asked to join FC...Even then you can ask for relaxation from FC on some pretext...since this year CSE[Mains] will be in December so one might not require exemption from FC and even DOPT may not consider request for exemption from FC.....Any way, FC is a golden period for all the successful candidates...if you are not planning to appear again for CSE then kindly go and join FC and have fun for life time....Regarding time required for transition, it is very minimal...in fact it is only a formality...you apply for technical resignation and can proceed to join new department after some formalities which takes very less time...further query is welcome...keep on blogging...

Regarding LBSNAA...Reply to Mr Jaydev Dangar

Mr Jaydev Dangar:- What about the married candidates? Are they allowed to keep his/her spouse at institute?

Manmauji:- Hello Mr Jaydev Dangar, thanks for your visit on the blog...Regarding your query,during foundation course, spouses are strictly not allowed at the Institute...further query is welcome...keep on blogging...

An Experience of an IRS[C&CE] officer

Hello all,I am publishing an experience of a senior Commissioner level IRS[C&CE] officer without quoting his/her name here for general education to the Civil Service Aspirants...This is what he/she says:-

          "I opted for IC & CES after IAS as I was not keen on IFS and IPS. I was told IC &CES will give variety compared to Income Tax. It has reward schemes. My experience in the last 20 odd years vis-a-vis my initial assumptions is as follows:


1. In my two stints as AC/DC Division I could play the role in administration, adjudication (judicial), preventive (policing) and public relations (External Relations) and a team player (private executive). The position gave me immense insights in to the business processes of trade and industry and associated problems making me fit to be an advisor on these matters

2. Working in Customs: import assessment, export assessment, dock examination, and Courier cargo clearance gave me the skills of an Engineer or material/goods expert. Passenger clearance at airport... gave me superb insights in to human behaviour and human relationships; coordination with other agencies and working in a networked environment

3. Working in CESTAT, Legal, Audit, and Preventive, etc made me discriminate good argument and bad argument. It taught me appreciate that every one has a good argument and bad argument. I learnt how to advance my argument, views, opinions, etc without hurting others thought these are not in line with others views/opinions.

4. As JC/ADC I worked in sevice tax, major air cargo, minor port, CCO and NACEN. It gave me opportunity to work in a "staff role/supportive role". The period is used

for institution building: mentoring AC/DCs and learning leadership skills from seniors. I learnt coordination jobs, peer relation management, and self capacity building (did MPA in Singaporea)

5. As ADG, NACEN: I am happy to be part of capacity building machinery of CBEC.

My experience with the service is good. May be I got opportunity to work in all areas of work and at various places. I may be the very FEW WHO SERVED IN ALL FIVE ZONES. Ofcourse my stint in Central Zone is on addl charge basis (RTI, Patna and Kanpur)

I am of the view that our service is a combination of IAS (territorial jurisdiction), IPS (Uniform and Investigation), IFS (Coin Postings), and Judicial (adjudication). It gives immense variety.

To make the service better we need better house keeping and rest will be taken care."   Source:- Writeup on Facebook

Regarding provisional allocation of service...Reply to Mr Kishor

Mr Kishor:- Hi boss.. i got IRS(C&CE).But it is mentioned that it is a provisional allocation and chances are there for upgradation.If i wont need any upgradation and like to continue the allotted service..is it possible?
Mr Kishore:- Hi boss,say i got a service in provisional allocation and if i dont need any upgradation is it possible for me to retain the allotted service and rejecting the new service.
Thanks for any advice..  

Manmauji:- Hello Mr Kishor, thanks for your visit on the blog..Congratulations on your grand success in CSE-2011 and welcome to the real Royal Service of Government of India...Regarding your query, your service may be changed when all the candidates above will be finalised by DoPT. So, you don't have any option but to accept the Service given by DoPT as per your service preference indicated in CSE[Mains] form..However, you can give in writing to DoPT regarding your intention to stay in IRS[C&CE], if they can consider it, it will be good for you however chances are very nil for such consideration....all the best...further query is welcome...keep on blogging... 

Regarding Filling DAF...Reply to Miss/Mr Anonymous

Miss/Mr Anonymous:- Hi, I've cleared CSE 2012 prelims and got 300+ rank in CSE 2011. Can you please clear a doubt about filling DAF, what should I write in the column where it asks if you have accepted any allocated services?
As the services allocation has not been done yet.
Thanks in advance. 

 Manmauji:- Hello Miss/Mr Anonymous, thanks for your visit on the blog and congrats on your grand success in CSE-2011 and 2012[Pre]...Since you secured rank in CSE-2011, you are going to get the service allocated sooner or later. Therefore in any case you are going to join it but want to skip FC only as you have cleared CSE-2012[Pre]...therefore, you can fill yes in that column and see other column where there is option to skip FC...good luck...further query is welcome..keep on blogging..

Regarding technical resignation...Reply to Miss/Mr Anonymous

Miss/Mr Anonymous:- Hello Sir,After service allocation from dopt, if we submit unconditional resignation (Not technical resignation) from our earlier service, then in this case, do we need some clearance or document from previous service???
Do I have to track it till resignation is accepted and procedure is finished. I heard that it takes time.
I am still in probation. So one month notice does not apply here.
So Can we simply join FC, after submitting resignation from earlier service???
Thanks...

Manmauiji:- Hello Miss/Mr Anonymous, thanks for your visit on the blog....Regarding your query,I am not very sure however as far as I know, your original file will move to your new cadre controlling ministry. So you have to give technical resignation since you are joining another government formation and not leaving government job altogether. You must consult to your seniors on this issue or take help of some experts...But I will suggest you to give technical resignation as your leave and other benefits will remain intact...good luck..further query is welcome...keep on blogging..

FC Exam....Reply to Miss/Mr Anonymous

Miss/Mr Anonymous: Sir,How will the Exams at the End of FC be?.Do they ask questions from the guest lectures and in what format objective/subjective?.Do we need to Study regularly( we don't get time to do it ) or last week preparation is enough?
Manmauji: Hello Miss/Mr Anonymous, thanks for your visit on the blog..Regarding FC exams, they are of subjective in nature and just like GS paper of UPSC...There will be questions from guest lectures also..You may find some difficulty in Law paper only as rest of the papers are very simple in suggestive in nature...you need not worry about it...last week preparation will be more than enough...just enjoy the best time of your life..believe my words this time will never come in your life as no responsibility with full pay....so just chill and enjoy each event of FC...good luck...share your FC experience with this blog...further query is welcome..keep blogging..

Regarding the FC exemption...Reply to Miss/Mr Anonymous

Hello Miss/Mr Anonymous, thanks for your visit on the blog and congrats for your success in CSE...Regarding your query, I have already written in my previous blogs that you should not worry about it, if you have applied it on DoPT for exemption then just relaxed...your name may not reflect on exemption list on MCRHRD list....prepare well for mains...good luck....further query is welcome...keep blogging.....

Regarding movable assets..Reply to Miss/Mr Anonymous

Hello Miss/Mr Anonymous, thanks for your visit on the blog....Congratulations on your grand success in CSE-09....Regarding your query, you can declare LIC policy as well...as per rule you have to declare all liquid assets [i.e. which can be converted in to cash easily] specifically in your name which includes gold and other types of jewellery as well...further query is welcome..keep blogging..

Reply to Mr Nitin

Hello Mr Nitin, thanks for your visit on the blog....Congratulations on your grand success in CSE-09....Regarding your query, I had a discussion with a guy in DoPT on this issue, he told that you have to join FC...Still, you can contact to DoPT and some senior officials there regarding this matter....but one thing is sure, if you are finally upgraded to IFS in between, you will not be allowed to write CSE mains by UPSC and even if you appeared, your result will not be declared by UPSC...It has happened earlier also....further query is welcome..keep blogging..

Regarding FC exemption...Reply to 123

Hello 123...thanks for your visit on the blog...Regarding the address of DoPT, if you are in Delhi, you can go and give your application to DoPT directly or else, at the time of interview, you must have submitted 6 photocopies of your biodata to DoPT...you can send the FC exemption application on the same address....further query is welcome..keep blogging..

Regarding FC exemption...Reply to All

Hello All successful candidates of CSE-2009...Congrats for the grand success in CSE and thanks for your visit on the blog...I am getting numerous mails regarding FC...The problems are numerous..I have classified them in few categories and replying the same:
[1] For those who want to join FC but not received any communication from DoPT: No need to worry about it...You can check out your name on DoPt website and just join the allotted academy with descriptive rolls filled. Even if you didn't receive descriptive rolls from the respective academy, you can download them from the respective academy website..If website download is not working you can even join the academy without them as you will get these rolls in the academy. So, no problem at all..just book your seat and join the big fun waiting you.
[2] For those who want to take exemption from FC:
You can apply for the exemption online on the DoPT website mentioning your roll no of CSE-2010..This will be more than enough...If still, your soul doesn't get satisfaction then you can write a simple letter to DoPT mentioning your roll no of CSE-2010 and intention to take exemption from FC...you need not send any application to the respective academy regarding FC exemption...It may take some time for DoPT to update your name in the FC exemption list..But you should not worry about it and focus on your mains preparation. You should not go for a drive to check whether you are exempted from FC or not..immediate acknowledgement may not be given.
[3] Regarding letter from Parent department:
The letter from your respective service parent department will be sent in the month of November/December only after final updation of the services by DoPT...till that time you all are under the control of DoPT...after the final allocation of services [upgradation of provisionally allocation of services], your file will move to your respective departments and then you will get a formal letter from the training academy and appointment letter from your respective ministry...so have some patience and enjoy the time.
You should remember one thing that now you have been selected by UPSC and approved by DoPT...you will be taken care by them now onwards...So, just enjoy and focus on FC or mains preparation...good luck.

Regarding provisional service allocation...Reply to Miss/Mr Anonymous

Hello Miss/Mr Anonymous, thanks for your visit on the blog....Congratulations on your getting in to IRS[IT]...Regarding provisional allocation of service, it might change before starting of FC but since time is very less, it is a very remote possibility that it will change with in this month...You have to join the allotted FC venue...The updated list will come out only in the last month of your FC..I know some of my batch mates who finally got IFS and IPS but did foundation with us....good luck...further query is welcome..keep blogging..

Change of venue of FC...Reply to Miss/Mr Anonymous

Hello Miss/Mr Anonymous, thanks for your visit on the blog..Congratulations on your success in CSE....Regarding the changes in FC venue, it is not possible to change the venue by any means....you have to join the allotted venue...further query is welcome..keep blogging..

Regarding FC exemption..Reply to Miss/Mr Anonymous

Hello Miss/Mr Anonymous, thanks for your visit on the blog...Regarding FC exemption, you can file the exemption request on line on DoPt website[ www.persmin.nic.in] after the Prelim result....DoPt will send you a letter whether you want to take exemption from FC or not....This process will start after the service allocation and CSE-2010 pre result....good luck...further query is welcome...keep blogging..

Reply to Mr Dattu and Mr/Miss Anonymous

Hello Mr Dattu and Mr/Miss Anonymous,thanks for your visits on the blog and kind words about it…it is really bad and disturbing that Dopt is acting in such an irresponsible manner…You are very true that only one more day to left for FC and they are coming out with this news….Any way look the brighter aspects only as this types of incidence will recur again and again in our life….Now you all will get sufficient time to prepare for CSE-09 mains…so enjoy and start preparing for mains….regarding the preparation for FC,don’t worry about the expenditure you would have done,these things will be useful when you will join your respective departmental training…..regarding change of exam centre, you can write an application to UPSC…they will definitely consider your case as some of my friends have approached to UPSC today for the same requests and they were very helpful in this regard..I don’t think that they will create any problem so just wait for Monday and give application or send the fax…..further query is welcome….keep blogging….I am publishing the notice issued by Dopt..it is available at www.persmin.nic.in ......
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No. 1301l/30/2009-AIS(I)
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances & Pensions
Depal1ment of Personnel & Training
New Delhi, 28th August, 2009.
Notice
Subject : Grant of. exemption from participation in 83rd
Foundation Course to be held at LBSNAA, Mussorie,
Dr. M.C.R. HRD Institute of Andhra Pradesh,
Hyderabad and RCVP Noronha Academy of
Administration, Bhopal scheduled to commence from 1st
Septem ber, 2009 - reg.
Keeping in view representations received from candidates
who are appearing for Civil Service Examination, 2009 (Mains), it
has been decided to permit exemption to the candidates who are
appearing in CSE (Mains), 2009 from participation in Foundation
Course scheduled to commence from 1st September, 2009 as a
special case.
\\S e/ (S.sY S~~la)
Under Secretary to the Government of India
Ph. No. 23092695
1. LBSNAA, Mussorie,
2. Dr. M.C.R. HRD Institute of Andhra Pradesh,
Hyderabad
3. RCVP Noronha Academy of Administration, Bhopal
4. All the cadre controlling authorities
5. Deputy Director, NIC, for immediate publication on DoPT
website.

Exemption from attending 83rd FC

Hello all, Dopt has decided finally to give relief to the successful candidates of CSE-2008 in the form of exemption from attending 83rd Foundation course being conducted at LBSNAA,MCRHRD and Bhopal…..The manner in which Dopt has behaved this year shows clear cut lack of coordination and for sight and sensitivity towards the civil service aspirants…Now candidates has to move UPSC to change the centre of examination for CSE-2009 because most of the CSE-08 candidates have filled the exam centre for CSE-09 in the city of their FC[of course,if they have applied for it]….Dopt has said that they are going to update the details on its website at 4 pm onwards today [28th August]….Due to the misinformation,the candidates has almost lost one month in the preparation for FC….Now they have to work hard to bridge the gap in the preparation…Any way at last candidates got some respite and now they can fully devote their time for CSE-09…I wish them a good luck…keep blogging….

Reply to Mr Dattu,Mr Mandeep and Mr/Miss Anonymous

Hello Mr Dattu,Mr Mandeep and Mr/Miss Anonymous,thanks to all of you for your visits on the blog and kind words about it…..I congratulate you all for the selection in CSE-08…..Regarding the post about IRS[C&CE] Vs IRS[IT], though the writer has elaborately discussed all the aspects but still you can discuss wth your own friends or seniors belonging to these services for more clarification…..Regarding skipping FC,Mr Dattu, you have all the right to skip FC or not to take service this year….But what I feel UPSC not only requires hard work but luck also…If you are confident enough that you can get very good rank next year you can go ahead and don’t join this service…but one should be cautious enough in the era of intense competition…..rest is your choice…good luck for CSE-09…..Regarding the other query posed by Mr/Miss Anonymous and Mr Mandeep, FC is definitely compulsory this year….If you have not received joining letter so far, you need to contact to DOPT and not UPSC for service matter as UPSC’s role is over after the final result…..you can get the contact numbers of section officer of DOPT from www.persmin.nic.in website in the ‘citizen corner’ link [left hand side column] or from ‘contact us’ link…..further query is welcome…..keep blogging….